Josh Kerr

Jakob Ingebrigtsen is one of the most dominant runners on the planet: two Olympic golds, multiple world championship medals, and five world records by age 25. He's also coming back from February Achilles surgery and rebuilding toward a season that could include three more world record attempts.

Jessy Carveth sits down with Jakob for a candid, gear-nerd-friendly conversation about how he's actually training right now, what he really thinks of the "Norwegian Method" label, and how he uses lactate testing and elliptical work to keep VO2 high when he can't run. Jakob also breaks down one of the biggest shoe rotations in the sport, his hands-on role developing the Nike Victory spike that helped him break world records, and the new Coros watch he co-designed as part of the Fearless campaign.

And yes, we get into the Josh Kerr question. How real is the rivalry? Are they friends? Would they ever line up at a marathon together? Jakob answers all of it, plus opens up about why he sees himself debuting at 26.2 in his late 30s and what fearless actually means to him.

In this episode:

• Inside the Copenhagen Marathon weekend (and his brother's 2:29 debut)
• Why Jakob wants to wait until his late 30s for the marathon
• What the "Norwegian Method" actually is — and isn't
• Lactate testing, intensity control & avoiding the most common training mistake
• How he used 14x3 minute elliptical intervals to maintain fitness post-surgery
• A full tour of his Nike shoe rotation: Pegasus, Vomero, Structure, Alphafly, Streakfly & Victory
• Working hands-on with Nike R&D on the spike that broke world records
• The truth behind the Josh Kerr rivalry
• Whether a Jakob vs. Kerr marathon showdown could ever happen
• The new Coros watch & the "Fearless" campaign
• What's next for Jakob the rest of 2026

He said it was his to lose. Then he went out and made sure of it.

Josh Kerr is back on The Running Effect, and this time he's not limping off a global stage. He's walking out of Toruń with gold, and already calling his next shot.

At the 2026 World Athletics Indoor Championships, Kerr reclaimed the 3000m title he first won two years ago in Glasgow. He ran a 7:35.56, the second-fastest winning time in World Indoor Championships history. 

February brought his return: a 2-mile against Cole Hocker at Millrose, a second-place finish that felt more like reconnaissance than defeat. He knew what was coming.

Before Toruń, he called the title his to lose. On March 21, he backed it up, settling patiently, surging at the bell, making himself the target, and winning by 0.14 seconds.

Now the next target is on the clock.

Project 222. On July 18 at the London Diamond League, Kerr will attempt to break Hicham El Guerrouj's mile world record of 3:43.13, a mark that has stood since 1999. The goal: 222 seconds flat. A 3:42 mile. His current PB of 3:45.34 is the British record and sixth all-time. Two seconds separates him from history. 

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A relatively quiet weekend in track, though there’s still plenty to dig into with Chris Chavez, Kyle Merber, and Preet Majithia.
In this week’s episode:

- Preet’s pandemic-era haircut savings

- McKirdy MicrOTQ recap: Kyle paced Thomas Knobbs to a 2:09.24 — the fourth-fastest Canadian of all time — then helped the women’s qualifying group

- The race start had a fascinating start: single-file starts, chip timing

- 14 men and 11 women earn Olympic Trials qualifying standards

- Sound Running 10K

- The 2027 Beijing 10K standard: Why World Athletics still hasn’t announced it?

- Maurie Plant Meet: Lachlan Kennedy beats Gout Gout again

- Claudia Hollingsworth beats world indoor champ Georgia Hunter Bell in the women’s 1500 — Is this the year she announces herself?

- Cameron Myers runs 3:30 and wins by a lot — why wasn’t he at World Indoors?

- Embrace debate: of Hollingsworth, Gout Gout, and Myers: Who has the best shot at Olympic gold in Brisbane?

- The Pure Athletics vs. Star Athletics tension is real and it’s good for the sport

- Josh Kerr and Project 222: 3:42 mile world record attempt at the London Diamond League on July 18th

- What happens if Cole Hocker breaks the record two weeks earlier at Pre-Classic?

- Albert Korir gets a five-year doping ban, Patrick Dever moves to the podium

- Conner Mantz scratches from the Boston Marathon

- Why Kyle is most impressed by Clayton Young’s altitude long run

- Cynthia Erivo will run the London Marathon after performing two shows of a one-woman Dracula the day before

- Harry Styles marathon watch

- Marileidy Paulino runs 2:04 in the 800, Dalilah Muhammad is very much not retired

- What’s coming on the podcast feed

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Hosts: Chris Chavez | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@chris_j_chavez⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ + Preet Majithia | ⁠⁠@preet_athletics⁠⁠ + Kyle Merber | ⁠@kylemerber⁠

Produced by: Jasmine Fehr |⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠@jasminefehr⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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Die Hallen-WM in Toruń ist Geschichte – und was für eine. Cooper Lutkenhaus wird mit 17 Jahren der jüngste Weltmeister in der Geschichte der Leichtathletik, Keely Hodgkinson läuft in 1:55.30 auf Championship-Rekord, Yann Schrub verpasst Bronze im Fotofinish um 0.01 Sekunden – und Deutschland geht leer aus. Felix und Max zerlegen die Rennen, ordnen die deutsche Bilanz ein (ohne Panik, aber ehrlich) und schauen voraus: Am Wochenende steht mit The Ten in den USA und dem Berliner Halbmarathon das erste echte Highlight der Straßen-Saison an. Amanal Petros auf Europarekord-Kurs. Drei deutsche Männer beim 10.000m-Rennen des Jahres. Und Max mittendrin – als Pacer im B-Lauf.

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00:00 Intro

00:30 Felix' 5km-Fitness-Check: 16:08 – was war, was geht noch

04:00 Max im Trainingslager Flagstaff: Letzter Update vor The Ten

05:00 Max als Pacer? Die Chaos-Story hinter seiner Startnummer

10:05 Ministry-Sponsor-Block: Power Carb Heat, Recovery Shake, Immun-Stick

15:10 Keely Hodgkinson: 1:55.30, Championship-Rekord – und danach noch 400m-Staffel

19:00 Keely als Vorbildfigur – Körperbau, Stärke, Frauenlaufsport

23:00 Cooper Lutkenhaus: Mit 17 Jahren jüngster Weltmeister aller Zeiten

28:00 3000m Männer: Josh Kerr, Cole Hocker, Yann Schrub – das Fotofinish

32:00 Nadia Battocletti: Warum sie zu wenig Aufmerksamkeit bekommt

34:00 1500m: Mariano García, Georgia Hunter Bell35:00MWR der Woche: Keely, Lutkenhaus, Battocletti

35:20 Deutsche Bilanz Hallen-WM: Ehrliche Analyse ohne Panikmache

43:00 Strukturproblem DLV: Fehlende Veteranen-Ebene

47:00 Deutsche Halbmarathon-DM Frankfurt: Ringer, Pfeiffer, Antonia Schiel

53:00 Zum Timing der DM-Rennserie: 10km, HM, Marathon

53:55 Preview: The Ten – Amanal Petros auf 27:21-Rekord-Kurs?

58:45 Lisa Merkel beim The Ten: Frauen-10.000m

01:02:00 Berliner Halbmarathon Preview Männer: Petros, Lobalu, Simon Boch

01:03:00 Berliner Halbmarathon Preview Frauen: Amebaw, Esther Pfeiffer krank?

01:16:40 Quizfrage: Robert Farken beim Maurie Plant Meet in Melbourne

01:19:00 Tobi Tend-Segment aus Südafrika

Preet Majithia breaks down the biggest moments and surprises from day two at the 2026 World Athletics Indoor Championships in Poland.

A couple of today's highlights include:

- After getting beaten by Cole Hocker in his first race of the season at the Millrose Games two mile, Josh Kerr has the last laugh by outkicking Hocker and the field to win his third global title and second in the 3000m, running 7:35.56 ahead of Hocker’s 7:35.70.

- Nadia Battocletti finally got her golden moment in the 3000m, as the Italian used a 28.54 final lap to outkick Jessica Hull with Battocletti claiming her fourth global medal in 8:57.64.

- Khaleb McRae led for about 390 meters of the 400m final, but it wasn’t quite enough to hold off the late charge of Christopher Morales Williams, who closed best to win in a championship-record of 44.76.

- Lurdes Gloria Manuel had only won one 400m so far in 2026 heading into this weekend, but she clocked three straight indoor PBs in the three rounds of racing and won her first global title in 50.76.

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